Kent & Fern Frost
F: He says, “I thought I had it figured out that I was coming out on three wheels.”
Q1: Well, you certainly had to be resourceful back then on your trips… able to to invent or…
K: Well, I was always pretty lucky. I’d generally only go with one vehicle. And that was oh about the only time I seriously broke down any place. But anyway, that was about, oh, two or three miles before you get to Lizard Rock. And it’s where you go over that there last real steep, rocky, solid rock hill and down the other side. I used to call it Axle Hill because that’s where I broke my axle. That’s the one that’s steep solid rock out there.
Q1: I know that one.
F: So I had to be prepared for many things.
Q2: How did the guy that called you, how did he get…?
F: Oh, he was over there. Dean Brimhall went over there often at that time.
K: Yeah, he come by with his Jeep and he was going down to the Doll House. So I told him I’d like to have him take out a message when he come back by. And so I had it all written out what I needed. And so when he got back to Fruita, why then that’s when he phoned.
Q1: Did you take Elzy Bird out to the Harvest scene? I know it’s called the Bird site after him. And I’m not sure when he went in but it was in the 50s. Ever hear that name?
K: I don’t think so.
Q1: He had something to do with painting that mural of Horseshoe Canyon.
K: Well, Lynn Fossit, that man that painted that picture, he did lots of mural painting. And he painted them in the Tri-City hall and went all around the building with murals. And anyway he made a great big canvas, about 50 feet long or more, of that big panel down in Horseshoe Canyon. And that was along in the ‘30s when he made that. And anyway, they finally dug that out after they made the National Park out of the country. And so they had the first showing of that at this (Hammond Carter?) Museum in Fort Worth, Texas. So Fern and I were invited to go over to that. So we went over and were special guests for the (Hammond Carter?) Museum when they had this big mural hanging and folded around the wall there. It was impressive. And I don’t know where that is at now. I would think it should be displayed someplace. It was life-size, you know, of them, and a beautiful job of painting.
F: The Price Museum must have it.
Q1: Well, there is a painting of the Holy Ghost and Attendants, life-size, at the Price Museum.
K: Well, this was a great long canvas about, oh, 50 or 100 feet long or something. I don’t know but it was real, real long.
Q2: You were going to ask about the road to the Mouth of Millard Canyon.
Q1: Oh yeah, did you ever get up to Anderson Bottom off of the Millard Canyon road?
K: Well, no. I wanted to ask you about that road. I always wanted to go up there and camp overnight.
Q1: It’s in pretty good shape. You can do it . The campsite is right on the river at the mouth of Millard Canyon. And there are old roads that go up into Millard Canyon. In fact, Ted Ekker said that he…do you know Ted? From Green River?
K: Yeah, I Know Ted.
Q1: Working on a drilling operation out by Cleopatra’s Chair? Driving water up from the Green River up Millard Canyon to the base of the cliffs and pumping it up to the top to use for the drilling operation. And if you go out on that point…here it is…[looking at the map] if you go out on this point here…
K: Well, I been up on them..
Q1: There’s an old road that goes out onto this And it’s along about right in here, you see where they were doing that. They have the supports and everything set in place. You can see the road came up: it didn’t come up to the Shinarump, it came up to where the Moenkopi starts clipping out and it looks like that’s where they were pumping up. But there’s a bunch of old roads down in here and another thing I’m trying to find out is…
K: Well, I’ve seen some of this from up above.
Q1:Who was down in there. There’s old shacks down in there. Yeah, if you drive up here it’s a little rough, it’s pretty slow going and you get right here and there’s the camp site, a place to camp.
K: Well, I think I’d really like to go down in there this spring. I guess anytime now’d be alright as long as there’s not any snow on the road to there.
Q1: Yeah, the Flint Trail might not open up right away but give it a little while for the snow to melt off of it…
Well, have you seen the new Canyonlands Backcountry Management Plan.
K: Yeah, I’ve studied that pretty well.
Q1: What do you think of that, closing Salt Creek?
K: Well, I take a dim view on closing Salt Creek because then not very many people’d see it if it were closed to vehicles. But the big thing I have about it….I agree that there’s a lot of people that go on these here Jeep trips and four wheel excursions that don’t take time to see the country. They just want to say they been there but that don’t do much good for ‘em to go. But then other people that do appreciate going to that country would get kept out of there too.
Q1: Can you think of any other aspects of the plan…?
K: Well, there again, if the Doll House is so far away from the Waterhole Flats that people wouldn’t be able to walk over there and back in a day so they’d have to be strong back packers and then they’d need to find water somewhere along the line if they went there. Down there just off from the… I guess, the east end of Lizard Rock…I guess the west end of Lizard Rock, down that canyon, there’s a big pot hole there and the stockmen have built a stock trail down to that. I guess you knew about that one. And there’s a cave in there. It looks like the Indians might a’ camped over right in that there little cave by the side of that pot hole. I don’t know. I looked pretty closely at it and I don’t know.